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berockly (TTG) 3/3/2023 10:58 PM
(Shibi, kat, keep in mind that unconscious means unintentional)
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Error 🧶 BOT 3/3/2023 10:58 PM
No need to be mean.
@Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) - jump that’s like, my main personality trait!
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entertain,me 😎
Not
Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/3/2023 10:58 PM
I am conscious, my host is too, if i talk to my host i dont make them talk, they still talk back, and they are not unconscious.
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berockly (TTG) 3/3/2023 10:58 PM
To him
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Error 🧶
No need to be mean.
@Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) - jump that’s like, my main personality trait!
Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/3/2023 10:58 PM
Abandon it and you will be hapier 🙂 ❤️
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し)
I am conscious, my host is too, if i talk to my host i dont make them talk, they still talk back, and they are not unconscious.
entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 10:58 PM
A big example of this is anyone who schizophrenic
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/3/2023 10:58 PM
No its not...
10:59 PM
Thats a crazy bad example for tulpamancy...
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entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 10:59 PM
They don't conscious make the voices
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berockly (TTG) 3/3/2023 10:59 PM
@entertain,me 😎 instead of using conscious and unconscious, just say intentional or unintentional
10:59 PM
Atleast we would agree on the definition
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entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 10:59 PM
*consciously
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/3/2023 10:59 PM
I dont conciously make my tulpas voice, they just answer, they are still conscious...
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berockly (TTG)
Atleast we would agree on the definition
entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 10:59 PM
It would still lead back to the same concept
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/3/2023 10:59 PM
Im the tulpa now and i can confirm im conscious.
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tree so you have question about which part of the mind is you and where is the boundary but why does it matter?
11:00 PM
what are you trying to understand with that?
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entertain,me 😎
It would still lead back to the same concept
berockly (TTG) 3/3/2023 11:00 PM
It wouldn't, watch Hey guys, we Can agree that a tulpas actions are not intentional by the host right? (edited)
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tree so you have question about which part of the mind is you and where is the boundary but why does it matter?
entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 11:00 PM
I already know what part of mind is controllable and what is not bit apparent consciousness is just too messy a word
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sorry i will repeat my question
11:01 PM
so you have question about which part of the mind is you and where is the boundary but why does it matter? what are you trying to understand with that?
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entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 11:01 PM
The boundary is precisely that unconsciousness
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berockly (TTG)
It wouldn't, watch Hey guys, we Can agree that a tulpas actions are not intentional by the host right? (edited)
berockly (TTG) 3/3/2023 11:01 PM
Leiko, shibi
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sorry i will ask again
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entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 11:01 PM
Like awaking a slumber
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why does it matter?
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entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 11:01 PM
Of just finding out your purpose in life
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entertain,me 😎
The boundary is precisely that unconsciousness
Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/3/2023 11:01 PM
but its you too, isnt it?
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entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 11:02 PM
Even tho there isn't any
11:02 PM
Atleast not objectively
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why does it matter if tulpa is you or not?
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し)
but its you too, isnt it?
entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 11:02 PM
Yes
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shibi could you please let him answer this
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berockly (TTG) 3/3/2023 11:02 PM
Right now this is a difference in defining a word causing this
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Leiko
why does it matter if tulpa is you or not?
entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 11:02 PM
It doesn't
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ok thank you
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entertain,me 😎
It doesn't
Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/3/2023 11:02 PM
Then why have such a strong belief about it?
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entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 11:03 PM
About why they're you?
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entertain,me 😎
It doesn't
berockly (TTG) 3/3/2023 11:03 PM
The point is that you experience it as separate from you, somas i said earlier, it is unconscious the way you are using the word
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/3/2023 11:03 PM
Yeah, why have such a strong belief if nothing really changes. If it doesnt matter if it is or not. (edited)
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し)
Yeah, why have such a strong belief if nothing really changes. If it doesnt matter if it is or not. (edited)
entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 11:04 PM
It's not even a belief for me I'm just trying to understand how it may or may not work
11:04 PM
If I can't then I don't deem it real
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i mean whole conversation was about if tulpa is you or not and it seems everyone agrees that it doesn't matter if it's you or not...
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entertain,me 😎
It's not even a belief for me I'm just trying to understand how it may or may not work
Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/3/2023 11:04 PM
But it doesnt matter how it works
11:04 PM
it just works
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I feel like we are 3, does that not make us 3?
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My experience is that of 3 people in a brain.
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entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 11:04 PM
You said it yourself
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You ,"feel" like you're 3
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Not you are
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/3/2023 11:05 PM
🤦‍♂️
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it's not about feeling it's about experiencing
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Tewi: There is no such thing as "real" or "fake" experiences. What you experience and how you interpret it is the only thing that decides the reality of your own internal experiences. (edited)
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entertain,me 😎
Not you are
Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/3/2023 11:05 PM
It doesnt matter what you "are", there is no real "are", "are" is just a quirk of language. (edited)
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Reisen
Tewi: There is no such thing as "real" or "fake" experiences. What you experience and how you interpret it is the only thing that decides the reality of your own internal experiences. (edited)
entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 11:05 PM
That's experience is what makes it real
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Tewi: You guys sure are arguing about the word "You" a lot, make sure not to burn yourselves out. (edited)
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people don't do tulpamancy to have anything that scientists can look under microscope and say this is a tulpa here in those neurons they do it for the experience
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entertain,me 😎
That's experience is what makes it real
Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/3/2023 11:06 PM
You can see it as im one, i can see it as we are 3, you can still talk to the 3 of us, nothing changes, why have such a strong belief about it?
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entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 11:06 PM
Because I wouldn't recognize that you are "3"
11:07 PM
Unless diagnosed
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That's why I wanted to understand
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Reisen
Tewi: You guys sure are arguing about the word "You" a lot, make sure not to burn yourselves out. (edited)
Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/3/2023 11:07 PM
You mean ourselves godo definition or ourselves our definition? 😛
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entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 11:07 PM
Before assuming it isn't real
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entertain,me 😎
Because I wouldn't recognize that you are "3"
Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/3/2023 11:07 PM
Well, i dont care if you recognize me as 3, the other 2 dont care either so it doesnt matter.
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Error 🧶 BOT 3/3/2023 11:08 PM
who gives a fuck if it’s real. It feels real and can be beneficial so who gives a shit
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entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 11:08 PM
It doesn't, so why is this conversation still going
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/3/2023 11:08 PM
Why would you deny to recognizing someone as they feel comfortable though.
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Unless diagnosed
@entertain,me 😎 - jump i am diagnosed with did and i still think it doesn't matter
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し)
Why would you deny to recognizing someone as they feel comfortable though.
entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 11:08 PM
I don't wanna get in that topic because it can stem off into alot of things
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That's why gender nowadays is confused
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Or anything thatbwould be considered objectively true
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/3/2023 11:09 PM
If you dont want to stem of into a lot of things stop actively stemming off into a lot of things!
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entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 11:10 PM
I'm no5
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Not
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I merely answering questions
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I haven't asked anything
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entertain,me 😎
That's why gender nowadays is confused
Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/3/2023 11:10 PM
This was not an answer to anything.
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entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 11:10 PM
Atleast not not
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Now
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berockly (TTG) 3/3/2023 11:10 PM
If your wanting to understand something, then ask them instead
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し)
This was not an answer to anything.
entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 11:10 PM
It's an example
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berockly (TTG)
If your wanting to understand something, then ask them instead
Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/3/2023 11:10 PM
So, if im diagnosed would you recognize me as 3?
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entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 11:10 PM
If a dude felt he was a woman
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Is he a woman
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I'm just giving examples
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/3/2023 11:11 PM
depends on how you define woman
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entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 11:11 PM
The gender isn't the point
11:11 PM
Define woman
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し)
So, if im diagnosed would you recognize me as 3?
berockly (TTG) 3/3/2023 11:11 PM
Diagnosed with what?
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berockly (TTG)
Diagnosed with what?
Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/3/2023 11:11 PM
idk they said that...
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entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 11:11 PM
You can't define a man or woman
11:11 PM
But you know they aren't the same
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entertain,me 😎
You can't define a man or woman
Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/3/2023 11:11 PM
I can define them in different ways
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entertain,me 😎
If a dude felt he was a woman
berockly (TTG) 3/3/2023 11:11 PM
If he believes he is a woman, then he is a woman to himself
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berockly (TTG)
If he believes he is a woman, then he is a woman to himself
entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 11:12 PM
That would still make him a man physically which makes it objective since we can actually see it
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/3/2023 11:12 PM
I can define a man as an individual of the masculine sex, or as someone that percives themselves with the masculine gender identity.
11:12 PM
Ofcourse you can define man and woman.
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if someone feels like a woman then they feel like a woman... i'm not sure what's confusing about this
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entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 11:12 PM
There isn't a definition for genders
11:13 PM
We can only recognize they're different
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